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we want to thank oracle's jimmy spittle or the taking us out the first time in august. it's going to be a busy weekend, but it's going to bring all kind of attention. they may be anticipating the largest crowd ever to see one of these races in north america because of all the events here in san francisco this weekend. and the racing will continue through sunday. let's show you a little bit right now as to what was out on the bay today. ♪ the america's cup world series is back on the bay for another week of racing with match racing qualifiers set for wednesday as the action continues through to the fleet racing finals on sunday. tuesday practice sessions were just part of the scene as the skippers from all 11 teams came together, and nine of them looking to challenge oracle team usa which took top honors in the match racing and fleet racing competition in august right near san francisco. the skippers for oracle team usa are certainly feeling at home here in the bay area, and are looking to build on their summer of success. >> i see more of us. i mean we'd like to repea
we want to thank oracle's jimmy spittle or the taking us out the first time in august. it's going to be a busy weekend, but it's going to bring all kind of attention. they may be anticipating the largest crowd ever to see one of these races in north america because of all the events here in san francisco this weekend. and the racing will continue through sunday. let's show you a little bit right now as to what was out on the bay today. ♪ the america's cup world series is back on the bay for...
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delays south of market, bumper-to-bumper jammed oracle open world howard street closed at mosconey center between third and fourth expect delays around that entire area the rest of the week. ramp closure due to roadwork west 92 to southbound 280 until 6:00 this morning. waze app is a great free app to get you around some of these traffic jams, fleet week coming and america's cup starting today and all the other activities, abc7news.com/ waze, download this free app to find out how to avoid traffic jams. >>> an important gauge of our nation's economic recovery is out this morning. national retail federation expects winter holiday shopping sales to rise just over 4% this year. it is smaller than the growth in each of the past two years if you look at retail hiring more optimistic view. nationwide macy's planning to hire 80,000 workers for the christmas season, 2 1/2% increase from last year. >>> 4:47. next warning for anyone taking amtrak this morning. how yesterday's derailment down south is affecting commuters here. >>> north bay city's tough new laws against smoking. what you need to kno
delays south of market, bumper-to-bumper jammed oracle open world howard street closed at mosconey center between third and fourth expect delays around that entire area the rest of the week. ramp closure due to roadwork west 92 to southbound 280 until 6:00 this morning. waze app is a great free app to get you around some of these traffic jams, fleet week coming and america's cup starting today and all the other activities, abc7news.com/ waze, download this free app to find out how to avoid...
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team usa. >> oracle team usa's is the youngest skipper to ever capture the america's cup when he was 30 years old. in 302013 he looks to take his team to back-to-back titles. he was drawn to the sport in a meaningful way. >> you know, when australia won, all of the people, no roads, you had to get there by boat, all got together and it was partying following the victory. when you're a young kid seeing that, naturally that's what you want to do. >> reporter: he became one of those guys and now is very hands-on in the effort to defend the cup. >> successful teams are athletic driven teams. >> oracle team's usa other skipper is the winningest skipper in the history of the cup and he's the most skilled skipper in the world. high praise from a boss that won four cups himself. when they compete against each other in a race setting, it's healthy but fierce. >> you have to really love it. it has to be a real passion. i think now we're put down as the defender but i see us as having to win it again. it's like nothing else matters more than winning this next cup. >> reporter: for jimmy, quite
team usa. >> oracle team usa's is the youngest skipper to ever capture the america's cup when he was 30 years old. in 302013 he looks to take his team to back-to-back titles. he was drawn to the sport in a meaningful way. >> you know, when australia won, all of the people, no roads, you had to get there by boat, all got together and it was partying following the victory. when you're a young kid seeing that, naturally that's what you want to do. >> reporter: he became one of...
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this is the oracle open world event in san francisco. now, oracle ceo larry ellison will be introducing the database designed for cloud computing. you can see the roads are blocked off and the security guards are there. what's going to happen is the first new version of this in five years. oracle will be showing off and introducing some of the high end servers as well. the systems are designed to handle corporate data more officially. that's later in san francisco. >>> you may want to leave the house a couple minutes earlier than usual to get a free coffee on your way to work. 7-11 is giving away a large coffee or latte between the hours of 6:00 and 10:00 a.m. they call this cof-free day. several other food chain across america, including krispy kreme are offering free coffee. to pam, sal, steve. >> i may be able to make it in there before 10:00 a.m. rush over to 7-11. >> that's right. you can always use an extra cup of joe -- well, i could. >> yeah. >>> traffic is moving along pretty well. there's a crash northbound 880 at the alameda.
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this is oracle open world. not just a celebration of relational data base software, this is a place where deals get made. a deal where oracle will use mapping technology. >>> american express will refund money to customers after accusations made that they broke federal laws in the way it billed, collected money and marketed its product. a number of consumer agencies claim they offered card users rewards that it never delivered. >>> eric simons launched his company. he became famous last year when he lived side the offices of aol without the company knowing it. no hard feelings. the idea he was working on while squatting at aol is now a company. it aims to bring teachers together through the power of social networking. and speaking of new things, it's a baby boy for yahoo! ceo and her husband announcing this morning on twitter. famously announced she'll take a short maternity leave. no name announced yet. the happy couple reportedly looking for suggestions. i know you have experience at that. >> all right. thank
this is oracle open world. not just a celebration of relational data base software, this is a place where deals get made. a deal where oracle will use mapping technology. >>> american express will refund money to customers after accusations made that they broke federal laws in the way it billed, collected money and marketed its product. a number of consumer agencies claim they offered card users rewards that it never delivered. >>> eric simons launched his company. he became...
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. >>> today's day three of oracle's world conference. now, ceo, larry ellison, will be delivering the keynote speech about cloud computing and social media. this runs through thursday. >>> they will be outside. more hot weather a's. it may even be -- ahead. it may even be hotter today. up next, steve paulson will have the forecast for your area. >>> and it's pretty slow in the south bay right now. i will give you an update on that commute. ♪ [ female announcer ] at yoplait, we want you to feel even better about your favorite flavors. so when you call, tweet, and post, we listen. that's why yoplait light and yoplait original are now made with no high fructose corn syrup. and why we use only natural colors and natural flavors in yoplait original. so, anything else we can do for you, let us know. but you'll keep it to yogurt, right? 'cause we shouldn't really help with your love life. yoplait. it is so good! >>> sexual assaults are on the rise around the uc berkeley campus. that's according to a new police report. uc campus police say 24
. >>> today's day three of oracle's world conference. now, ceo, larry ellison, will be delivering the keynote speech about cloud computing and social media. this runs through thursday. >>> they will be outside. more hot weather a's. it may even be -- ahead. it may even be hotter today. up next, steve paulson will have the forecast for your area. >>> and it's pretty slow in the south bay right now. i will give you an update on that commute. ♪ [ female announcer ] at...
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shot, nice map to tell you about the events coming up america's cup started today fleet week happening oracle open world to get around all of this mass transit they are saying is the way to go. so far this morning that is on time no delays for bart, muni, caltrain at that hour 242 typical slow downs west on highway 4 from antioch towards pittsburg. carquinez bridge to the maze 24 to the caldecott tunnel eastbound caldecott right bore right lane blocked with accident. altamont commute just under 25 minutes. >>> still ahead, breaking news from the u.s./mexico border. shooting leaves a border patrol agent dead, we'll have details. >>> oprah's big the deal she just signed as she tries to improve ratings at her struggling cable network. >>> first a consumer reports' smell test can febreeze mask kitty litter and sardine odors? michael finney has the answer. >>> breaking news. a border patrol agent was killed in a shootout near the u.s./mexico line in arizona this morning the area is known as a major drug smuggling corridor. another border patrol agent was wounded and airlifted to a hospital. one de
shot, nice map to tell you about the events coming up america's cup started today fleet week happening oracle open world to get around all of this mass transit they are saying is the way to go. so far this morning that is on time no delays for bart, muni, caltrain at that hour 242 typical slow downs west on highway 4 from antioch towards pittsburg. carquinez bridge to the maze 24 to the caldecott tunnel eastbound caldecott right bore right lane blocked with accident. altamont commute just under...
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. >>> san francisco is gearing up to welcome thousands of people to this world's oracle of -- organizers say the conference will feature discussions about industry trends, future technology and innovation. ceo is said to welcome the new database. more than 60,000 people are expected to attend. goes until next thursday. >>> now you can get ktvu news to go, download the app, click on the live icon and you can watch all of our newscasts live on your device. >>> quake early morning system that we told you about last night. the high-tech system is designed to automatically slow bart trains during a sizeable quake. u.s. seismologists say we are already behind other countries. >> right now in japan they have developed an early warning system. we are behind them already. >> reporter: a fully operational system would cost about $150 million. no word on an outcome today. >>> 10 and 11-year-olds paid a bounty for big hit. the action that's being taken. >>> and i'm back here in just a couple of minutes. i've got your weekend forecast and it promises to be a warm one. >>> and in just 8 minutes we wil
. >>> san francisco is gearing up to welcome thousands of people to this world's oracle of -- organizers say the conference will feature discussions about industry trends, future technology and innovation. ceo is said to welcome the new database. more than 60,000 people are expected to attend. goes until next thursday. >>> now you can get ktvu news to go, download the app, click on the live icon and you can watch all of our newscasts live on your device. >>> quake...
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. >>> well, the oracle open world continues today in san francisco. last night chief executive larry ellison kicking things off and outlined his newest vision, a new cloud system he says he believes is better and faster than the competition. oracle already has a cloud system, but this new one is meant to go head to head with amazon and google. the oracle open world runs through thursday. >>> a local community center for computer programmers is safe, thanks to some generous donors. mountain view's hacker dojo has raised the $250,000 it needs to keep its office space. the city gave the group until december to modify its building to comply with city codes. that meant installing fire sprinklers, handicap accessible bathrooms and fire exits. hacker dojo now has money and time to complete those renovations before the city deadline. >>> the world's largest online retailer will uncork a new service today literally. amazon.com planning to sell bottles of wine this holiday season. the company is hoping to form a partnership with nearly 100 wineries from across
. >>> well, the oracle open world continues today in san francisco. last night chief executive larry ellison kicking things off and outlined his newest vision, a new cloud system he says he believes is better and faster than the competition. oracle already has a cloud system, but this new one is meant to go head to head with amazon and google. the oracle open world runs through thursday. >>> a local community center for computer programmers is safe, thanks to some generous...
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. >>> san francisco is gearing up to welcome thousands of people to this world's oracle of -- organizers say the conference will feature discussions about industry trends, future technology and innovation. ceo is said to welcome the new database. more than 60,000 people are expected to attend. goes until next thursday. >>> now you can get ktvu news to go, download the app, click on the live icon and you can watch all of our newscasts live on your device. >>> quake early morning system that we told you about last night. the high-tech system is designed to automatically slow bart trains during a sizeable quake. u.s. seismologists say we are already behind other countries. >> right now in japan they have developed an early warning system. we are behind them already. >> reporter: a fully operational system would cost about $150 million. no word on an outcome today. >>> 10 and 11-year-olds paid a bounty for big hit. the action that's being taken. >>> and i'm back here in just a couple of minutes. i've got your weekend forecast and it promises to be a warm one. >>> and in just 8 minutes we wil
. >>> san francisco is gearing up to welcome thousands of people to this world's oracle of -- organizers say the conference will feature discussions about industry trends, future technology and innovation. ceo is said to welcome the new database. more than 60,000 people are expected to attend. goes until next thursday. >>> now you can get ktvu news to go, download the app, click on the live icon and you can watch all of our newscasts live on your device. >>> quake...
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once again oracle open world has howard street closed south of market expect major delays the rest of the week. >>> we are coming up on 5:51. >>> tragic boating crash leaves dozens dead in hong kong. this morning several people arrested for the tragedy. >>> incredible video of a methanol plant going up in flames. we'll show you the dangerous conditions firefighters had to deal with. >>> thieves steal from california's most pressured have you heard of the new dialing procedure for the 408 and 669 area codes? no, what is it? starting october 20, 2012, if you have a 408 or 669 number, you'll need to dial 1 plus the area code plus the phone number for all calls. o.k., but what if i have an 408 number and i'm calling a 408 number? you'll still need to dial 1 plus the area code plus the phone number. so when in doubt, dial it out! >>> good morning. six crewmembers are under arrest right now of a ferry crash that killed $s in the waters off hong kong. at least 37 people are dead, more than 100 sent to the hospital after yesterday's crash with another boat. this morning authorities arrested c
once again oracle open world has howard street closed south of market expect major delays the rest of the week. >>> we are coming up on 5:51. >>> tragic boating crash leaves dozens dead in hong kong. this morning several people arrested for the tragedy. >>> incredible video of a methanol plant going up in flames. we'll show you the dangerous conditions firefighters had to deal with. >>> thieves steal from california's most pressured have you heard of the new...
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traffic is already thick in san francisco south of market area because of the oracle open world convention in masconi center. many say the roads won't be able to handle all that traffic. >> i think it'll be too many cars. as it is right now there's too many cars. >> reporter: there are several events bringing people to the city. 49ers and giants home games, fleet week, the castro street fair, two parades, and america's cup event and a three day bluegrass festival. more than 1 million people are expected. ed riskin head of san francisco's transportation agency is down playing reports this will put a strain on muni. >> that's not accurate. we have a great plan for not massive transit, but for all the regional transit providers. we've been working on this for a long time. we knew this weekend was coming. >> reporter: muni, b.a.r.t., caltrain and san francisco bay ferries have all added extra service to accommodate the events. and if you're walking, extra parking control officers will be around to monitor pedestrian safety at many major intersections. >> we're here in the city because it's vib
traffic is already thick in san francisco south of market area because of the oracle open world convention in masconi center. many say the roads won't be able to handle all that traffic. >> i think it'll be too many cars. as it is right now there's too many cars. >> reporter: there are several events bringing people to the city. 49ers and giants home games, fleet week, the castro street fair, two parades, and america's cup event and a three day bluegrass festival. more than 1...
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. >>> the oracle open world continues today. >> last night chief executive larry ellison kicked things off outlining his newest vision, a new cloud system that he says is better and faster than the competition. oracle already has a cloud system, but this new one is meant to go head to head with amazon and google. it runs through thursday. >>> 6:08 right now. coming up, the deportation decision keeping families together regardless of sexual orientation. we'll tell you about the major victory for the gay rights movement just ahead. >>> plus the race to the white house. candidates getting in some last-minute jabs before wednesday's big debate. >> reporter: and can you believe it, the a's magic number is down to one. they could seal the deal tonight. i'm christie smith. we'll tell you what still has to happen for that to happen for the oakland a's. >>> let's go athletics. but not so many didngood vie pr -- vibrations. the hockey lockout still has the sharks on ice. more talks this week, we'll keep you posted. ♪ ♪ we were skipping stones ♪ and letting go ♪ over the river and down th
. >>> the oracle open world continues today. >> last night chief executive larry ellison kicked things off outlining his newest vision, a new cloud system that he says is better and faster than the competition. oracle already has a cloud system, but this new one is meant to go head to head with amazon and google. it runs through thursday. >>> 6:08 right now. coming up, the deportation decision keeping families together regardless of sexual orientation. we'll tell you...
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depending upon where you are, you may smell natural gas while pga vents. >>> oracle openworld's 2012 conference is happening and yesterday, larry ellison debuted new pro ducks during his speech. he will be speaking again tomorrow. they are expecting 50,000 people at the moscone center through thursday. the area around howard street may be blocked off for you drivers. so expect delays. >>> good advice for people heading in the city. >> see how people are coping in the bay bridge pop-- toll plaza. >> it keeps cycling through. this morning, on interstate 880, we also had some slowing, just a little bit farther up from the picture. here at the coliseum, it's a pretty important game for the as tonight. so be aware of that. from hayward to it union, that traffic will be huge. >> it's a huge event for the as. >> yes. >> as you know. >>> clear skies -- boy, twitter nation, especially those folks who are affected by the fog. not the best air quality today. fire danger is up and thank goodeness there is not a big wind today. a lot of 70s and 80s closer to it. just a -- just a minor, minor west
depending upon where you are, you may smell natural gas while pga vents. >>> oracle openworld's 2012 conference is happening and yesterday, larry ellison debuted new pro ducks during his speech. he will be speaking again tomorrow. they are expecting 50,000 people at the moscone center through thursday. the area around howard street may be blocked off for you drivers. so expect delays. >>> good advice for people heading in the city. >> see how people are coping in the bay...
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but it's been causing just a mess right there by moscone center oracle open world. that's what's going on. once again, everything looks good for mass transit. we haven't had any issues on mass transit, so all trains heading into downtown are right on schedule. that's a check of your "timesaver traffic." and like we say, we have traffic and weather together every 10 minutes. so here's my buddy next to me, lawrence. >> oh, sure, everybody wants to be my friend when it's sunny outside! lots of hot temperatures around the bay area, today again very similar. mostly clear skies, all the way to the coastline. we're looking good and some very mild temperatures to start out the day. in fact, by the afternoon, with mild temperatures, it is going to get hot. probably some triple digits showing up in some of the valleys and then we'll start to see some gradual cooling but for know that ridge of high pressure is in place so one more hot day for today. and then we'll begin to see some cooldown as this area of low pressure approaches the coastline. that will usher in more low clou
but it's been causing just a mess right there by moscone center oracle open world. that's what's going on. once again, everything looks good for mass transit. we haven't had any issues on mass transit, so all trains heading into downtown are right on schedule. that's a check of your "timesaver traffic." and like we say, we have traffic and weather together every 10 minutes. so here's my buddy next to me, lawrence. >> oh, sure, everybody wants to be my friend when it's sunny...
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again we have been talking about this for a while now for at least much of this week started last week, oracle open world they have those street closures on howard between 3rd and 4th causing bad traffic tie-ups south of market. it is no longer a "spare the air" day even though it's going to be hot again. we'll talk to lawrence in a minute. but yeah, no "spare the air" but you can always use mass transit. so far there's no delay. we'll go outside show you some live traffic cameras. here's a live look at the south 101, near mckee in san jose and a few more cars hitting the roads at 5:15. taillights are moving southbound. northbound traffic looks good this morning heading towards santa clara. we'll get a quick look at the san mateo bridge now where westbound 92 taillights that's the commute direction. so far looks great out towards the high-rise. 14 minutes out of hayward towards the other side. that's a check of your time- saver traffic. here's lawrence. >> you were loving it yesterday a lot of folks loving to see the heat for a while now. looks like this will be it and things will be changing.
again we have been talking about this for a while now for at least much of this week started last week, oracle open world they have those street closures on howard between 3rd and 4th causing bad traffic tie-ups south of market. it is no longer a "spare the air" day even though it's going to be hot again. we'll talk to lawrence in a minute. but yeah, no "spare the air" but you can always use mass transit. so far there's no delay. we'll go outside show you some live traffic...
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oracle getting ready to unveil the new generation of its top- selling database. the ceo, larry ellison, will be introducing the new 12-seed database designed for cloud computing this weekend. more than 50,000 will be attending the event in person. more than a million will be joining it online. >>> this would could be the only weekend when football fans actually cheer the referees. >> this is the seen an hour ago as they came out of the tunnel to a standing occasionvation. [ cheers ] >> yeah, the regular referees came back and the players last night in the ravens game, were so excited -- and the browns. ray lewis went up and shook one of their hands. ray lewis was also excited because his team won the broncos. >>> sal will return with one last check on the ice cream truck that overturned in the san ramon valley in the parking lot. [ taste buds ] donuts, donuts, donuts! who are these guys? oh, that's just my buds. bacon, donuts. -my taste buds. -[ taste buds ] waffles. how about we try this new kind of fiber one cereal? you think you're going to slip some fiber by
oracle getting ready to unveil the new generation of its top- selling database. the ceo, larry ellison, will be introducing the new 12-seed database designed for cloud computing this weekend. more than 50,000 will be attending the event in person. more than a million will be joining it online. >>> this would could be the only weekend when football fans actually cheer the referees. >> this is the seen an hour ago as they came out of the tunnel to a standing occasionvation. [...
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we saw oracle's boat out practicing yesterday. we'll see them again today in the 72. it is phenomenal. it is foiling, which means the entire boat lifts out of the water and just has tiny foils underneath that are only about this long, so the whole boat, it's like it's hovering over the water. it's really great. it will be really neat to see them all out next summer. >> reporter: best bet for people that want to come out and see what's happening today with the practices, the qualifying tomorrow, the competitions throughout the week. you can come out to marina green. they have ana online a -- appd they have made this into a very fan friendly event. reporting live here in sf, bob redell "today in the bay." >>> if you're just joining us this morning time for a quick check of the day's top stories. the oakland a's clinched a wild card spot in the postseason after we gbeating the texas ran 4-3. the team can win the a.l. west division title with two regular season games left to play. >>> grief counselors will be on hand at albany middle school after teacher james izumizaki w
we saw oracle's boat out practicing yesterday. we'll see them again today in the 72. it is phenomenal. it is foiling, which means the entire boat lifts out of the water and just has tiny foils underneath that are only about this long, so the whole boat, it's like it's hovering over the water. it's really great. it will be really neat to see them all out next summer. >> reporter: best bet for people that want to come out and see what's happening today with the practices, the qualifying...
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madonna about justin biever be at the oracle are we now. and also this week and there is cal football morses ucla. and to not forget that there's also the possibility of a play off game at the coliseum this weekend. get ready, there is plenty to choose from. dan kerman, kron 4. >> the oakland athletics for clinching the play offs and they are keeping their american dreams alive. we are live. and decision 2012. it is the night before the big presidential debate. president obama will square off at the first debate in colorado. and the u.s. naval blue angels are heading towards the bay tonight. we are tracking their arrival, coming up. iw >> the oakland a's clenching a spot after last night's victory. and still a possible first place in the west. j. r. stone is like. how is it going out there? >> how is it going i cannot think of a better way to spend by up to noon. fans were not without joy. this could be a packed house tonight. (dixie jazz) to they allow you to bring that? >> i do not know but we are going to find out. we've been watching th
madonna about justin biever be at the oracle are we now. and also this week and there is cal football morses ucla. and to not forget that there's also the possibility of a play off game at the coliseum this weekend. get ready, there is plenty to choose from. dan kerman, kron 4. >> the oakland athletics for clinching the play offs and they are keeping their american dreams alive. we are live. and decision 2012. it is the night before the big presidential debate. president obama will square...
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justin bieber is in town at oracle a raid on saturday night. also an east bay there is cal football vs. ucla on saturday night. there's also the plight of games for the a's at the coliseum. >> kron4 is a place to watch the blue angels live presented by jeep will bring you all the sights and sounds of the blue angels as they fly over the bay saturday live at 3:00 p.m. this weekend. am i still had a hurricane will not be the only storms with names on them. we would study by the weather channel slightest idea coming up next. i live look out a san jose a there is a lot of sunshine will be back in a moment. you disgust me. prove it. enough is enough. d-con no view, no touch trap snaps to kill instantly. no looking, no touching. d-con. get out. >> of the dow now gains 44 points. a new job reports coming from the private sector. yesterday's losses are raised to 13,528. >> naming winter's storms is common in europe and we are going to start that here. like hurricanes. they have the list already it starts with athena and ends with zeus. they go alphabet
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. >> nokia looks to give oracle customers access to map data and location services. this bill seems like nokia executives are trying to expand this concept companies mapping services which are going head-to-head with google map. freedom which to a start up one of the founders of sky is set to launch today a wireless data service that promises to save customers hundreds of dollars a year. the services offering users have a gigabyte of have speed wireless data free per month and day and sell more cheaper rates as a gigabyte for $10 a month 5 gb for $35 a month to have some options there from the freedom pop they said the costa much lower than with the carriers charge of the carrier since the services the data only. >> we'll be right back as the kron for morning news continues the or plastic and stethoscope consumers have only one option. and a live look from the san mateo bridge before sun sign is getting warm already this morning traffic from its low westbound it's almost 60 degrees already before i knew 90 around 4:00 this afternoon is still in the '80s. bay area is
. >> nokia looks to give oracle customers access to map data and location services. this bill seems like nokia executives are trying to expand this concept companies mapping services which are going head-to-head with google map. freedom which to a start up one of the founders of sky is set to launch today a wireless data service that promises to save customers hundreds of dollars a year. the services offering users have a gigabyte of have speed wireless data free per month and day and...